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Everything we’ve written down from the people who call the markets, grouped by the question they’re arguing about. These are views on the record, not scored bets; the scoreboard tracks the calls specific enough to grade. The bar on each card is the bull share of the bull-and-bear count. New claims land most mornings.

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Markets & Valuations

Where the indexes go and whether any of it is deserved.

The S&P 500+27 this week
Ed YardeniTom LeeChamathMike WilsonScott Galloway+51
Where does the index end the year? Targets and earnings math, with the drawdown warnings that come attached. 94 claims · 60 bull · 21 bear Latest: Tim Murray, 2026-08-05
The Crash Question
Tom LeeAndrew Ross SorkinKyla ScanlonDave RamseyJeremy Grantham+14
Is this market a bubble about to answer for itself? Valuation alarms against the case that this time earns it. 24 claims · 3 bull · 19 bear Latest: Chance Finucane, 2026-07-17
Stock Picks+3 this week
Ed YardeniScott GallowayJason CalacanisDan Ives+52
Single names on the record: who is pounding the table for what, with dates attached. 84 claims · 64 bull · 15 bear Latest: Tatsuo Yoshida, 2026-08-04
SpaceX
Cathie WoodDan IvesChamathTom LeeAnkur Crawford+11
The trillion-dollar IPO era: what the valuation proves, and to whom. 20 claims · 9 bull · 10 bear Latest: Cathie Wood, 2026-07-25
Prediction Markets+3 this week Betting on events goes mainstream: the growth numbers, and the argument over whether it is investing or gambling. 8 claims · 4 bull · 2 bear Latest: Brian Quintenz, 2026-08-02
Private Credit+9 this week The shadow-lending debate: whether the boom in private credit is a durable asset class or the place the next blowup starts. 17 claims · 1 bull · 12 bear Latest: Ed Zitron, 2026-08-01
Europe
Scott Galloway+4
Europe squeezed between China and its own bills: write-off or the trade everyone gave up on too early. 6 claims · 3 bull · 2 bear Latest: Adam Linton, 2026-07-22
Global Equities
Jeremy Grantham+15
Markets beyond the United States: who is buying the rest of the world, and why. 19 claims · 11 bull · 5 bear Latest: Kyle Rodda, 2026-07-22
Tesla
Dan IvesChamath+1
The most argued-about stock on the board: deliveries, robotaxis, and the valuation fight. 4 claims · 4 bull · 0 bear Latest: Dan Ives, 2026-07-18
The Fed & The Economy

Rates, inflation, jobs, housing: the machine underneath everything else.

The Fed
Mike NovogratzStephen MiranKevin WarshKevin MahnMike Wilson+48
What does the Warsh Fed do next: cut, hold, or hike, and when? Every other debate keys off this one. 68 claims · 1 bull · 8 bear Latest: Kyle Rodda, 2026-07-22
Inflation+12 this week
Kevin WarshStephen MiranEd YardeniCathie WoodKyla Scanlon+29
Does inflation resettle or reignite? The number that decides most of the other debates. 44 claims · 9 bull · 15 bear Latest: Mark Thornton, 2026-08-05
The U.S. Economy+6 this week
ChamathDavid Sacks+38
Recession, resilience, or ho-hum: reads on the consumer, jobs, and growth. 43 claims · 25 bull · 14 bear Latest: Scott Bessent, 2026-08-03
Housing+5 this week
Scott GallowayJeremy Grantham+9
Foreclosures, affordability, and who is willing to call a bottom. 14 claims · 7 bull · 7 bear Latest: Camilo Miguel, 2026-08-03
Tariffs+1 this week Who actually pays for tariffs, and which famous minds have changed about them. 12 claims · 0 bull · 7 bear Latest: Jason Furman, 2026-07-31
Canada The Canadian read: jobs, banks, energy buildout, and the Buy Canada shift. 10 claims · 4 bull · 5 bear Latest: Brendan Murray, 2026-07-21
Trump Accounts The $1,000-at-birth investment accounts: rollout targets, market impact, and who benefits. 2 claims · 2 bull · 0 bear Latest: Brad Gerstner, 2026-07-10
The Dollar+12 this week Debasement, reserve status, and where the currency everyone prices in goes next. 21 claims · 9 bull · 11 bear Latest: Ven Ram, 2026-08-05
Energy & Hard Assets

Crude, gold, and the debasement argument.

Oil & Gas+16 this week
Cathie WoodMike Wilson+65
Crude's path: supply shocks, record-low inventories, and targets running from $45 to $90. 121 claims · 47 bull · 42 bear Latest: Donald Trump, 2026-08-05
Gold & Hard Assets+5 this week Gold and hard assets as the debasement trade: decades to run, or already crowded? 69 claims · 53 bull · 11 bear Latest: Samantha Dart, 2026-08-03
Uranium Spot prices, long-term contracts, and the nuclear buildout: who is bullish, at what level, and why. 4 claims · 4 bull · 0 bear Latest: Richard Goldberg, 2026-07-22
Crypto

Cycle calls, price targets, and what bitcoin is or is not.

Bitcoin & Crypto+12 this week
Mike NovogratzTom LeeCathie WoodJeff ParkJeremy Grantham+26
Bitcoin and the crypto complex: cycle calls, price targets, and the argument over what it all is. 58 claims · 39 bull · 13 bear Latest: Evgeny Gaevoy, 2026-08-04
AI & Tech

The buildout, the winners, the jobs, and who pays when it wobbles.

The AI Trade+30 this week
Dan IvesGil LuriaDavid SacksKevin WarshMike Wilson+109
Is the AI buildout durable demand or an overbuild? The capex, the losses, and who blinks first. 193 claims · 84 bull · 82 bear Latest: Lisa Su, 2026-08-05
AI Winners & Chips+4 this week
David SacksTom LeeDan IvesJeremy Grantham+34
If AI wins, who gets paid? Chips, memory, and the picks-and-shovels argument. 50 claims · 28 bull · 21 bear Latest: Lisa Su, 2026-08-05
AI, Jobs & Productivity+3 this week
Jason CalacanisChamathDavid SacksCathie Wood+19
What AI does to work and productivity: acceleration, replacement, or both at once. 29 claims · 16 bull · 9 bear Latest: Elon Musk, 2026-08-05
The State Buys In
Scott Galloway+3
Should the state hold stakes in AI labs and strategic firms? Bailout, industrial policy, or precedent. 6 claims · 1 bull · 5 bear Latest: Scott Galloway, 2026-07-06
The AI IPOs
Scott GallowayDavid SacksChamath+12
OpenAI, Anthropic, and the trillion-dollar listing question: when they go public, at what price, and who is buying. 22 claims · 9 bull · 10 bear Latest: Saam Motamedi, 2026-07-20
More debates

Arguments still finding their crowd.

Fed+75 this week
Kevin WarshEd YardeniStephen MiranTom Lee+43
90 claims · 5 bull · 22 bear Latest: Tim Murray, 2026-08-05
Ai Market+35 this week
David SacksJason CalacanisChamathTom Lee+19
39 claims · 15 bull · 20 bear Latest: David Sacks, 2026-08-02
Ai Safety+16 this week 19 claims · 1 bull · 11 bear Latest: Clem Delangue, 2026-08-04
Bonds+11 this week
Ed Yardeni+7
12 claims · 5 bull · 5 bear Latest: Lisa Shalett, 2026-08-01
Oil Hormuz+2 this week 10 claims · 1 bull · 2 bear Latest: Tim Stewart, 2026-07-30
Apple+5 this week
Dan Ives+2
7 claims · 4 bull · 1 bear Latest: MacKenzie Sigalos, 2026-07-31
Ai Cycle+5 this week
Ed YardeniDan Ives+2
6 claims · 2 bull · 4 bear Latest: Ed Yardeni, 2026-08-04
Semis+2 this week
Jensen Huang+2
5 claims · 4 bull · 0 bear Latest: Jason Tsai, 2026-07-31
Ai China+3 this week 5 claims · 1 bull · 4 bear Latest: Clem Delangue, 2026-08-04
Eu Antitrust+5 this week 5 claims · Latest: Fiona Scott Morton, 2026-07-31
Deals+5 this week 5 claims · 1 bull · 4 bear Latest: Neil Campling, 2026-08-05
Media Mergers
Chamath+3
Will the biggest media deals close? Named voices on Paramount-Warner Bros Discovery and what follows. 4 claims · 3 bull · 1 bear Latest: Chris Palmieri, 2026-07-20
Ai Adoption+1 this week 4 claims · 2 bull · 1 bear Latest: Nicholas Grous, 2026-08-04
Airfares+4 this week 4 claims · 3 bull · 0 bear Latest: Bob Jordan, 2026-08-03
Markets Cycle+4 this week 4 claims · 1 bull · 3 bear Latest: Mark Thornton, 2026-08-05
Situational Awareness Collapse+4 this week
Tom LeeChamathDavid Sacks+1
4 claims · 1 bull · 1 bear Latest: Tom Lee, 2026-08-03
Ai Economy+1 this week 3 claims · 2 bull · 0 bear Latest: Nicholas Grous, 2026-08-04
Ai Financing
Dan Ives+1
3 claims · Latest: Ed Ludlow, 2026-07-27
Amazon+3 this week 3 claims · 3 bull · 0 bear Latest: Jim Cramer, 2026-07-31
China+3 this week 3 claims · 1 bull · 2 bear Latest: Serene Tsai, 2026-07-31
Evs+3 this week 3 claims · 0 bull · 3 bear Latest: Hannah Elliott, 2026-07-31
Nuclear+3 this week 3 claims · 3 bull · 0 bear Latest: Stephen Lecce, 2026-07-31
Politics+3 this week
David Sacks+1
3 claims · 2 bull · 1 bear Latest: David Sacks, 2026-08-02
Autonomous Trucks 2 claims · 2 bull · 0 bear Latest: Chris Urmson, 2026-07-25
Ai Agi 2 claims · Latest: Elon Musk, 2026-07-24
Rates 2 claims · 0 bull · 1 bear Latest: Shayan Hussain, 2026-07-24
Concentration+1 this week 2 claims · 0 bull · 2 bear Latest: Ed Elson, 2026-07-29
Oil War 2 claims · 0 bull · 1 bear Latest: Mike Pence, 2026-07-28
Oil Spr 2 claims · 2 bull · 0 bear Latest: Mike Sommers, 2026-07-28
Boeing 2 claims · 2 bull · 0 bear Latest: Kelly Ortberg, 2026-07-28
Boe+2 this week 2 claims · Latest: Andrew Bailey, 2026-07-31
Ai Power+2 this week 2 claims · 2 bull · 0 bear Latest: Drew Marsh, 2026-07-30
Ukraine+2 this week 2 claims · 2 bull · 0 bear Latest: Kaan Terzioglu, 2026-07-31
Fifa+2 this week 2 claims · 0 bull · 2 bear Latest: Vanessa Perdomo, 2026-07-31
Single claims

On the record, not yet a debate.

BullMarkets Watch 2026-08-05
The economic 'constellations' underpinning his case that policy is not particularly restrictive.
Corporate earnings are through the roof. They're doing great. The consumer is hanging in there. The labor market is hanging in there.
Neel Kashkari · Minneapolis Fed President · CNBC ↗
BullEnergy 2026-08-05
Record 17.93bn euro quarterly orders; only ~20 percent of gas turbine orders AI-related, no cancellations.
it's not all about AI so I'm not seeing that concern. I do see obviously that at the end everything has to be built but what I also see is a long term growth trend in electricity and this gives me also for the next years to come comfort
Christian Bruch · Siemens Energy CEO · Bloomberg Television ↗
BearFx Dollar 2026-08-04
Asset owners questioning US policy predictability and Fed independence; Warsh may be the first chair in 45 years who must prove independence. EVENT: will, multiyear.
I think actually I think over the next several years you're going to see US dollar depreciation resume so I think we will get a weakening dollar.
Ron Temple · Lazard chief market strategist · Bloomberg Television ↗
BearCommodities 2026-08-02
Copper toward 5 on a normal equity correction; metals are sock puppets of stocks.
I fully expect it to be more likely to head towards five than stay much above these levels, particularly if you get a normal correction to stock market. That's a problem. My headline for last month's commodity outlook for industrial metals and metals were they're sock puppets, the US stock market.
Mike McGlone · Bloomberg Intelligence senior commodity strategist · Kitco News ↗
NeutralBoj 2026-07-31
contrarian on BOJ hiking further; no internal inflationary forces compel hikes
“the window the ripe window has has long since passed”
Amy Xie Patrick · Pendal Group (head of income strategies) · Bloomberg ↗
NeutralRba 2026-07-31
calls the RBA cycle over; Australia among first to cut in 2027
“I think they're done. And I think that suffering economy suggests they could be one of the first to have to pivot to outright cuts in 2027”
Lauren van Biljon · Allspring Global Investments (senior PM, rates and FX) · Bloomberg ↗
BullHealthcare 2026-07-31
big cap pharma and biotech turning to resilience and leadership
“We like health care a lot”
Michael Zinn · UBS (managing director, senior PM) · BNN Bloomberg ↗
BullIndustrials 2026-07-31
the less debated AI capex play
“we do like industrials. It's receiving a lot of the expenditure from these big cap tech companies”
Michael Zinn · UBS (managing director, senior PM) · BNN Bloomberg ↗
BullHedge Funds leaning · 2026-07-31
Citadel's discounted purchase of the fund's book; checkable vs performance figures
“It should lift the returns. It should be a sweet deal for them and for their investors.”
Hema Parmar · Bloomberg News (hedge fund reporter) · Bloomberg ↗
NeutralStarlink 2026-07-31
wont-claim: Starlink will not compete with Veon in its markets; CEO talking his own book, Veon holds the licenses and calls itself Starlink's biggest partner
“I do not see any intent of Starlink to come and do the groundwork of this type of business.”
Kaan Terzioglu · Veon (CEO) · Bloomberg ↗
BearUs Debt 2026-07-30
his frame for why hikes cannot come
“The Fed is in a debt trap right now”
Brien Lundin · Gold Newsletter / New Orleans Investment Conference · David Lin Report ↗
BullAi Music leaning · 2026-07-29
billion-dollar benefit to recorded music by 2030
“AI as a net one to two”
Ian Moore · Bernstein (US entertainment research analyst) · BNN Bloomberg ↗
BearVenture Capital 2026-07-28
what generative and agentic AI did to it in 24 months
“The VC model is broken”
Brendan Wallace · Fifth Wall (co-founder & CEO) · CNBC ↗
BullFord Ev 2026-07-28
the 2027 universal EV platform pickup, CFO guidance, book disclosed
“aimed at about $30, 000 as the starting price”
Sherry House · Ford (CFO) · CNBC ↗
BearAi Exposure 2026-07-27
reducing his own AI exposure, personal-money admission. PERSONAL-MONEY admission; de-risking, not shorting
“I sold my Google a couple of months ago”
Steve Eisman · Investor; The Real Eisman Playbook host (fmr FrontPoint, The Big Short) · CNBC ↗
BearPositioning leaning · 2026-07-27
sitting in cash until the picture clears. wait-and-see posture, not a crash call
“I've got cash”
Steve Eisman · Investor; The Real Eisman Playbook host (fmr FrontPoint, The Big Short) · CNBC ↗
BullRecession 2026-07-27
macro resilience call. caveat on tape: sentiment already slipping
“I'm not worried about the economy slipping into recession”
Kate Moore · Citi Wealth (chief investment officer) · Bloomberg Television ↗
BullValuation 2026-07-27
pushing back on bubble comparisons. comparative claim, not a cheapness claim
“1999 and 2000 were far more expensive than we have today”
Jeremy Siegel · Wharton · CNBC ↗
BearMargin Debt leaning · 2026-07-27
the caution inside his bull case. STRENGTH corrected firm->leaning: a scoped caveat from a bull
“I think the second big story out there is that margin debt still needs to work off that high level”
Tom Lee · Fundstrat Global Advisors · CNBC ↗
BearCrypto Sentiment hedged · 2026-07-26
where the attention went
“The crypto bros can do whatever the hell they want. The girls have moved on to AI”
NeutralCrypto Adoption 2026-07-26
what stalled retail adoption. STANCE corrected bear->neutral: past-tense diagnosis, not a price call
“Trump came in and he karate chopped that with the meme coin”
BullCrypto Portfolio 2026-07-26
his own book, disclosed. holdings disclosure, not a forecast; he puts only 20-40% odds on the Clarity Act in the same tape
“I'm long Bitcoin, Avalanche, Solana”
BullTokenization 2026-07-26
endorsing the Fink thesis. attribution on tape: Larry Fink is right immediately precedes
“Everything's going to get tokenized”
NeutralGeopolitics 2026-07-26
Iran read of the situation
“They miscalculated once again dealing with President Trump”
Jack Keane · Retired 4-star US Army general (Fox strategic analyst) · Fox Business ↗
BullAnthropic 2026-07-25
AI revenue acceleration example. the number is Anthropic's, recited secondhand by Wood; not her holding
“annualized run rate go from nine billion to forty seven billion”
Cathie Wood · ARK Invest · Fox Business ↗
BearSovereign Debt hedged · 2026-07-25
macro backdrop for metals. STRENGTH corrected firm->hedged: conditional on a rate breakout he only sees developing
“the risks for sovereign debt crisis are starting to increase sharply”
Willem Middelkoop · Commodity Discovery Fund (founder) · David Lin Report ↗
NeutralAi Open 2026-07-25
open-weight models stance. STANCE corrected bull->neutral: policy advocacy, no asset direction
“open models is essential for safety”
NeutralWealth 2026-07-25
retirement wealth backdrop. STANCE corrected bull->neutral: a statistic; the inference lives around it
“baby boomers have $90 trillion”
Ed Yardeni · Yardeni Research · Bloomberg Television ↗
BearNatgas Europe 2026-07-25
European gas storage. low storage implies upward gas-price pressure; bear tag is about the supply situation
“lowest seasonal level in about five years”
Stephen Stapczynski · Bloomberg (energy & commodities reporter) · Bloomberg Television ↗
BearIntel 2026-07-24
Intel Ohio fab delay. his overall Intel take on tape is mixed-to-constructive; profit-taking, not collapse
“pushed that to 2030”
Carmi Levy · Independent tech analyst (BNN Bloomberg regular) · BNN Bloomberg ↗
BearGbp 2026-07-24
British pound valuation. magnitude modest on tape: some depreciation creeping in, not a crash call
“one of the most over valued currencies on our metrics across the G 10”
Kamakshya Trivedi · Goldman Sachs (chief FX & EM strategist) · Bloomberg Television ↗
NeutralTmtg 2026-07-24
Trump Media performance this year
“Its stock is down more than 30%”
Gunjan Banerji · Wall Street Journal (lead markets writer) · CNBC Squawk Pod ↗
BullOil Products 2026-07-24
product prices under strain. STANCE corrected bear->bull: worsening product prices is the directional payload; crack-inflated product prices, not crude
“diesel is 180 a barrel here gasoline is 140 dollars a barrel”
Matt Smith · Kpler (Director of Commodity Research) · CNBC ↗
BullEarnings 2026-07-24
earnings support for stocks. half of a two-sided framing that nets to his summer-stall call
“very bullish environment on the earnings”
Ed Yardeni · Yardeni Research · Fox Business ↗
S&P 500 since this was said: +4.4% · 7,412 → 7,742 · as of 2026-08-05
NeutralValue Investing 2026-07-24
value vs growth era. inverted impression if shown alone: it is the preamble to a bullish value case by a value manager
“This has been a terrible 15 years for value”
Charles Bobrinskoy · Ariel Investments (vice chairman) · CNBC ↗
BearMstr 2026-07-23
Strategy (Saylor) equity if BTC breaks. no timeframe; path partly conditional on BTC breaking 50,000
“the common stock will be worthless”
NeutralGold Vs Btc 2026-07-23
1-year scoreboard he cites. HOST-SPEAKING concession, immediately rebutted by his own longer-horizon stats
“Gold is up 21% over the last year. Bitcoin is down 45%.”
Anthony Pompliano · Professional Capital Management · Anthony Pompliano Podcast ↗
Bitcoin since this was said: -0.5% · 65,033 → 64,703 · as of 2026-08-05
BearAi Revenue 2026-07-23
questioning where AI revenue to service the debt comes from. his own characterization; he concedes on tape it sounds alarmist; bearish force depends on the omitted $1.68T comparison
“the global software industry is less than 800 billion dollars”
Ed Zitron · Where's Your Ed At (author); Better Offline host · Prof G Markets ↗
BullGold Miners 2026-07-22
Novagold valuation pitch, he co-chairs. MATERIAL CONFLICT: he announced the merger and becomes co-chair; his own promotional arithmetic
“you're buying gold in the ground at only $119 per ounce”
John Paulson · Paulson & Co. (founder); incoming Novagold co-chair · CNBC ↗
Gold since this was said: +3.9% · 4,147 → 4,310 · as of 2026-08-05

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