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Chamath

Social Capital
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4 of 15 correct

4 correct, 11 missed; 4 too vague to score. Quotes in curly quotation marks are verbatim; everything else is a labeled paraphrase. Every call links its original source. Before you trust the call, check the record.

Scored calls

Said Jan 6, 2024 · deadline Dec 31, 2024Correct
Biggest political loser 2024: the Koch family / Koch network in the GOP
What happened: AFP endorsed Haley (Nov 2023), suspended her funding Feb 25, 2024; Trump won nomination and presidency over Koch-network preferences
Said Oct 9, 2023 · deadline Apr 2024 (Rule 4 default: 6 months)Correct
Fed unlikely to cut rates 'anytime soon' (amid Middle East conflict / oil dynamics)
What happened: First cut came Sep 18, 2024 - 11 months later. Markets at the time priced cuts beginning H1 2024
Said Jan 6, 2023 · deadline Dec 31, 2023Correct
Long Nikki Haley / short Ron DeSantis on the GOP nomination (relative trade)
What happened: DeSantis collapsed through 2023 (quit Jan 21, 2024); Haley rose to clear #2 and outlasted him
Said Mar 2023 · deadline Event-based (peak of cycle)Correct
Fed funds will need to reach roughly 5.5%-5.75% (terminal rate)
What happened: Peak was 5.25%-5.50% (Jul 2023, held 13 months) - upper bound touches the bottom edge of his range
Said Mar 5, 2026 · deadline Jun 12, 2026 (IPO leg); Jun 30, 2027 (merger leg)Missed
“I don't think SpaceX will IPO. I think it will reverse merge into Tesla. I think Elon will use it as a moment to consolidate control and power of his two seminal assets into one cap table.”
What happened: SpaceX completed a standalone Nasdaq IPO; first trade Jun 12, 2026 at $150.00. No Tesla reverse merger.
Said May 31, 2024 · deadline Oct 31, 2025Missed
Bitcoin to ~$500K by ~October 2025 (halving-cycle extrapolation, with interim waypoints)
What happened: BTC all-time high was ~$126K (early Oct 2025) - ~75% below target. First waypoint (~$100K at 6mo) roughly hit (Dec 4, 2024)
Said Jan 6, 2024 · deadline Dec 31, 2024Missed
Biggest business loser 2024: pro sports team valuations have peaked
What happened: Valuations kept rising: NBA avg ~$4.4B (+15% YoY); record ~$76B/11yr NBA media deal (Jul 2024); Celtics later sold at record ~$6.1B
Said Jan 6, 2024 · deadline Dec 31, 2024Missed
Biggest business deal 2024: Starlink goes public (repeat of 2023 call)
What happened: No Starlink IPO in 2024
Said Jan 6, 2024 · deadline Dec 31, 2024Missed
Most contrarian belief 2024: OpenAI's enterprise value goes down
What happened: Valuation nearly doubled: ~$86B tender (early 2024) -> $157B round closed Oct 2024
Said Jan 6, 2023 · deadline Dec 31, 2023Missed
Biggest business winner 2023: Relativity Space - 'on a trajectory to be as valuable as SpaceX' if launch succeeds
What happened: Terran 1 failed to reach orbit (Mar 22-23, 2023); rocket retired weeks later; company later needed a rescue takeover
Said Jan 6, 2023 · deadline Dec 31, 2023Missed
Biggest business loser 2023: Google Search - 'could lose 10 or 15% of usage' to AI rivals with material, measurable impact
What happened: Search revenue GREW to ~$175B in 2023; ~91-92% global share held; Alphabet stock +58%
Said Jan 6, 2023 · deadline Dec 31, 2023Missed
Biggest business deal 2023: Starlink IPO, valued at least half of SpaceX's private marks
What happened: No Starlink IPO in 2023 (or since)
Said Jan 6, 2023 · deadline Dec 31, 2023Missed
Most contrarian belief 2023: wage inflation keeps inflation from falling as much as people want
What happened: CPI fell 6.5% -> 3.4% during 2023; disinflation matched/beat consensus
Said Jan 6, 2023 · deadline Dec 31, 2023Missed
Best-performing asset 2023: cash + front end of the yield curve (T-bills to 2-year)
What happened: T-bills returned ~5%; S&P 500 +26%, Nasdaq-100 +54%
Said Jan 6, 2023 · deadline Dec 31, 2023Missed
Worst-performing asset 2023: junk debt (plus energy and SF commercial real estate)
What happened: High-yield returned ~+13% - one of the better fixed-income assets; energy roughly flat
Said Jan 6, 2024 · deadline Dec 31, 2024Too vague
Biggest political winner 2024: independent centrists
Said Jan 6, 2024 · deadline Dec 31, 2024Too vague
Biggest business winner 2024: bootstrapped and/or profitable startups
Said Jan 6, 2024 · deadline Dec 31, 2024Too vague
Best asset 2024: long public big tech / short late-stage private tech (spread trade)
Said Jan 6, 2024 · deadline Dec 31, 2024Too vague
Bitcoin to “cross the chasm” into mainstream adoption - “a part of the traditional financial lexicon by the end of 2024” (most anticipated trend)

Where they stand

Views on the record but not scoreable bets: no single number and deadline to grade. Shown in their exact words, never scored.

BullThe S&P 500 2026-08-02
With Treasuries above 5 percent, IG credit at 5-7 percent beats equities risk-adjusted, pressuring stretched AI valuations.
I agree with Freiburg about the fact that when you can get 5%, 5.25% from the U.S. government, there's another natural thing that happens, which is that investment grade corporates actually have better credit ratings now than the government of America, which that's a different thing, but you can get really good risk adjusted returns that are 5%, 6%, 7%, which adjusted for taxes are, you know, better than equity returns, meaningfully better on a risk parity basis.
S&P 500 since this was said: +3.4% · 7,490 → 7,742 · as of 2026-08-05
NeutralAi Market hedged · 2026-08-02
Frames the fork: duopoly holds means 5-10T each; open-source shift or token efficiency questions the premium.
if the answer is that it is a duopoly, then there is no risk to the revenue five to 10 years from now. These things are five to 10 trillion dollar companies each. But if you are right, or if there are harnesses that cut the token consumption because you stop wasting tokens to get to the same output, then it's a little bit more of a question mark.
All-In on the Situational Awareness blowup; asked about the chip-stock crash and the fund's margin call.
If I was going to give you one piece of advice when you're running risk is you have to manage leverage incredibly carefully because when it runs ahead of you, the unwind is incredibly violent and it's incredibly quick. [...] the rumors are he was running like three and a half turns [...] a 25 percent move is amplified 75 percent.
NeutralThe AI Trade leaning · 2026-07-18
Chamath backs the SRO because 'a torrent of money' will try to buy regulatory capture on both political sides; establishing self-set rules and superseding federal oversight avoids a duopoly and killing open source.
“I think it's really important. And I hope it happens quickly.”
Chamath · Social Capital · All-In ↗
Nasdaq since this was said: +3.7% · 25,520 → 26,456 · as of 2026-08-05
BullThe AI IPOs 2026-07-18
Chamath argues AI-native operators + capital (Stripe/Advent/Block for PayPal, Ryan Cohen/eBay, Bending Spoons rollups) will revive 'flaccid' founder-less digital businesses; he expects a big wave of such mega deals over the next couple years.
“I will make a prediction. I think that eBay and PayPal are probably the beginning of a wave of mega deals”
Chamath · Social Capital · All-In ↗
BullMedia Mergers leaning · 2026-07-18
On the ~$53B ($60/share) Stripe-Advent-Block offer for PayPal, Chamath says the final price will be higher and hints a strategic ('$4-5 trillion market cap') bidder could enter.
“this is probably not the final clearing price. I think the price is probably another 10 to 15% higher from here.”
Chamath · Social Capital · All-In ↗
BearThe AI Trade leaning · 2026-07-18
Building on Ramp CEO Eric Glyman's clip that token spend among Ramp customers grew 21x in a year, Chamath calls uncontrolled AI token spend 'a money burning furnace' that will eventually surprise CFOs.
“if things are 21Xing every few months, somebody's going to miss a quarter. I don't know who, but somebody.”
Chamath · Social Capital · All-In ↗
Nasdaq since this was said: +3.7% · 25,520 → 26,456 · as of 2026-08-05
BullThe AI Trade 2026-07-18
Chamath says the US is 'massively short electrons,' citing a PJM auction that sought 7-8 GW but drew only ~156 MW, and Elon's behind-the-meter turbine workaround; he frames power as the binding constraint on AI.
“By 2050, the United States of America will be 2.5 California's worth of energy in deficit.”
Chamath · Social Capital · All-In ↗
Nasdaq since this was said: +3.7% · 25,520 → 26,456 · as of 2026-08-05
BearThe AI Trade 2026-07-14
His oil analogy for frontier token pricing: OpenAI also $26, Anthropic's latest $56, Elon $1, Zuck $1.50, Demis and Sundar $1, 'The Chinese will sell it to you for $0.50. So this rationalization has to happen.' (@2:10); explicitly declines the host's invite to call an LLM break; discloses his seat: 'My entire job is selling enterprise opportunities.' (@0:24)
“Let's say a barrel of intelligence, which is a million tokens. You can buy that barrel for $26 from Anthropic's really good model.”
Chamath · Social Capital · CNBC ↗
Nasdaq since this was said: +1.3% · 26,107 → 26,456 · as of 2026-08-05
BearThe AI Trade leaning · 2026-07-14
'The CEOs and the CFOs, in my opinion, probably have no idea how much token maxing is going on inside of their organizations.' (@3:20); 'if you see a bunch of public companies in the next few quarters miss because of an OpEx miss' the market discounts that technology (@5:07); said the day IBM's prelim revenue wiped out $69B, the most since at least 1968 (Bloomberg tape @14:24)
“I suspect what will happen is one day you're going to have a miss, and EPS will be off by a few pennies. And the CEO will say to the CFO, what happened?”
Chamath · Social Capital · CNBC ↗
Nasdaq since this was said: +1.3% · 26,107 → 26,456 · as of 2026-08-05
BullThe S&P 500 leaning · 2026-07-14
'The hardware and memory complex is going to run for another couple of years because there are enormous constraints in that ecosystem.' (@4:44)
“NASDAQ will probably overperform the S&P.”
Chamath · Social Capital · CNBC ↗
S&P 500 since this was said: +2.6% · 7,544 → 7,742 · as of 2026-08-05
BearThe S&P 500 leaning · 2026-07-14
Extended Squawk Pod version of the Jul 14 interview; mechanism: a competitor with a cheap barrel of intelligence can attack any incumbent, so markets stop paying for 20 years of cash flows; 'worth some multiple of the first five to seven years only' (@56:14)
“the multiples of free cash flow of all these public companies are going to come way in”
Chamath · Social Capital · CNBC Squawk Pod ↗
S&P 500 since this was said: +2.6% · 7,544 → 7,742 · as of 2026-08-05
BullSpaceX leaning · 2026-07-14
Discloses long exposure via Founders Fund/Swarm history; sees industrial logic in SpaceX acquiring Tesla (fair premium 'probably a 50% premium' given lawsuit risk); 'The spectrum he bought from Charlie Ergen I think is going to get lit up' (@54:28); self-labels the phone-device call as speculation
“tens of millions of people all around the world that will pay him incrementally for that. I think that is what's being slept on. That is the key asset.”
Chamath · Social Capital · CNBC Squawk Pod ↗
Bezos-camp answer on tape; cites Disney animators 10x after Pixar, radiologists multiplying after Khosla's call, chauffeur drivers 2x after Uber; on Dario: 'very deeply afraid... they've just been wrong consistently'; 'the sky is not falling' (@48:05)
“there's going to be a lot more jobs”
Chamath · Social Capital · CNBC Squawk Pod ↗
BearThe U.S. Economy 2026-07-14
On the 5% Billionaire Tax Act ballot measure (Nov); says roughly a trillion dollars of wealth has already left ('it's in the neighborhood'); founders with paper valuations get unpayable bills; he personally stays and pays
“some sort of quasi bankrupt moment”
Chamath · Social Capital · CNBC Squawk Pod ↗
NeutralThe AI IPOs hedged · 2026-07-10
ADVICE TO THE LABS, not investor sell advice: IPO now, 'at a huge price', before the token-cost reckoning he describes becomes visible; his own CTO's numbers (costs doubling every 45 days, ~5% productivity gain) are the setup
“So I suspect that if you can get out now, you should get out now before all of that starts to seep into the water table.”
Chamath · Social Capital · All-In Podcast ↗
BearThe AI Trade leaning · 2026-07-10
His own query on S&P 493 EPS lift from AI since 2024
“the answer as far as all publicly available data was that the actual ROI was somewhere between zero and 2%.”
Chamath · Social Capital · All-In Podcast ↗
Nasdaq since this was said: +0.7% · 26,282 → 26,456 · as of 2026-08-05
BearThe AI Trade 2026-07-10
On corporate AI token spend
“At some point, you're going to have to show an ROI that's above the risk free rate of return. Otherwise, you're going to have some angry investors on your hands.”
Chamath · Social Capital · All-In Podcast ↗
Nasdaq since this was said: +0.7% · 26,282 → 26,456 · as of 2026-08-05
BearThe S&P 500 2026-07-06
“The cost of capital has now with long term rates moved back to what its long run average is, which is around eight to 11 percent. The problem is that half of large U.S. companies now cannot deliver returns that exceed that.”
Chamath · Social Capital · YouTube ↗
S&P 500 since this was said: +2.7% · 7,537 → 7,742 · as of 2026-08-05
…but I want to be able to protect myself in doing so. And then the second is I want the flexibility where there's an independent third party control plane that I use to get all these benefits so that I don't leak and cede my advantages away. And I think Alex is an incredible, smart, brilliant guy, and he completely nailed it. And I think he called out on its face the huge risk of this. So let me just give you this narrative in three tweets. The first one is I read this really interesting study from BCG and what they looked at was the return on capital employed or ROCE of various businesses. And this is what's incredible. The cost of capital has now with long term rates moved back to what its long run average is, which is around eight to 11 percent. What that means is like that is the actual cost that you would borrow money at effectively. The problem is that half of large U.S. companies now cannot deliver returns that exceed that. That is a really big problem. And then second, there's a further problem, which is that persistently low returns. So in the, you know, one, two, three, four, five percent is about one in seven companies all around the world. Okay. So why is this important to note? It means that being in business is complicated. It's hard. Not everything works all the time.…From: this video · 12 claims mined from it
BullThe AI Trade 2026-07-06
Goldman's 12-month dollar-yen forecast:
“if you wrap the open source model with our software factory, it was 16.4 x cheaper”
Chamath · Social Capital · YouTube ↗
Nasdaq since this was said: +1.3% · 26,121 → 26,456 · as of 2026-08-05
…it on a very typical enterprise task, which is you have an old piece of code, you want to migrate it, and you want to maintain it in a new framework so that it's easier and more flexible, pretty straightforward task. And so we ran it and we ran an experiment where we did Claude by itself, then we did US plus Claude, and then we ran it on the best frontier open source model, and then us plus that model. And the data is crazy. So when you use our harness with Claude , it was simultaneously 1.4 x cheaper and 1.5 x faster than just using Empropic Opus 4. 8 alone. But if you wrap the open source model with our software factory, it was 16.4 x cheaper . Now it was three times slower. But you know, you're talking about a couple of extra hours to save 16.4 x. So that one, the slowness, Chamath, is that slowness because of the hardware being served up by Claude? Or is it this is open router ? No, this was all using open router on a very traditional hardware stack. So look, I think the reality is, could that be optimized even further? Absolutely. But my point is, if you take Saksis points, and then if you take Alex Carp's point, and just this actual data , there is a very legitimate question, which is if you are a reasonable company, why are you…From: this video · 12 claims mined from it
BullTesla 2026-07-06
“I spent time with Elon. I've looked at Optimus. I can tell you Optimus is better than what Figure is doing.”
Chamath · Social Capital · YouTube ↗
…a lot hard to replace with AI. Totally. I do worry about, well, what happens in some of these other countries that are doing the super entry level stuff? Because I think that is right for your place. So they'll have massive job loss. Why don't it be massive, but that's where the risk is. I mean, frankly, it 's not in the US. Maybe we're getting to some consensus here. Job displacement versus job loss. Here is Brett Adcock sharing what they 're doing at Figure. They had an eight- hour challenge to have this robot they're building stored packages, and they did it for 200 hours. That's today. This is the least good it will ever be. This is the worst it's going to ever be. These things are getting really good. I spent time with Elon. I've looked at Optimus. I can tell you Optimus is better than what Figure is doing. What Optimus is going to do when Bezos and Andy Jassy are the least optimists inside of the Amazon factories is it's going to get rid of every-- let me state this very clearly-- every single package sorting, every single package delivery will not be done by humans in 10 years. And it's starting today, just like the idea that you would put together some of this consumer electronic stuff in factories with humans has gone away over time. And other countries-- I think you're making a very good point here, Sacks-- are going to experience it first. In America, knowledge workers, the entrepreneurial spirit, I think we 're going to see a Cambrian explosion in…From: this video · 12 claims mined from it
BullAI, Jobs & Productivity leaning · 2026-07-06
“every single package sorting, every single package delivery will not be done by humans in 10 years. And it's starting today”
Chamath · Social Capital · YouTube ↗
…'s not in the US. Maybe we're getting to some consensus here. Job displacement versus job loss. Here is Brett Adcock sharing what they 're doing at Figure. They had an eight- hour challenge to have this robot they're building stored packages, and they did it for 200 hours. That's today. This is the least good it will ever be. This is the worst it's going to ever be. These things are getting really good. I spent time with Elon. I've looked at Optimus. I can tell you Optimus is better than what Figure is doing. What Optimus is going to do when Bezos and Andy Jassy are the least optimists inside of the Amazon factories is it's going to get rid of every-- let me state this very clearly-- every single package sorting, every single package delivery will not be done by humans in 10 years. And it's starting today, just like the idea that you would put together some of this consumer electronic stuff in factories with humans has gone away over time. And other countries-- I think you're making a very good point here, Sacks-- are going to experience it first. In America, knowledge workers, the entrepreneurial spirit, I think we 're going to see a Cambrian explosion in startups, which means we're going to be the ones who benefit from it. But if you're looking at those other countries, they'll see it acutely first. We're just going to see it here with drivers, and that's 5, 10 million people, like we saw it with cashiers. The idea of going to a cash ier at a fast food restaurant, which I know you guys don't…From: this video · 12 claims mined from it

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